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PostPosted: Fri Mar 10, 2006 12:27 pm    Post subject: Mixed paragraph borders Reply with quote

I'm trying to produce a callout paragraph with a grey background, black 1 point lines top and bottom and 0.1" spacing to contents left and right. I am having trouble with the borders. When I change the top and bottom borders, the left and right borders change; and vice versa.

What I want is a combination of the first and second paragraphs illustrated below:


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 10, 2006 12:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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What do you mean ? I supose this is not a frame.
With frames I don't get any problem. I need, as you suggested once, to have right and left borders with the background color, in order to be able to control the spacing
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 10, 2006 12:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tested with Paragraphs. No problem either.

Its a little trickier. When I create the left and right borders, OOo changes the colour of the top and bottom borders. I insist until getting results !
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 10, 2006 12:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Create a frame the size you need, add the top and bottom borders and background as needed.

Paste text into the frame, then use format paragraph to indent left and right borders the amount needed - Indent before and after text = left and right indents.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 10, 2006 1:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Open Office doesn't respond to voice commands yet.
There should be a systematic step-by-step method to get any desired result if it is possible, preferably the shortest possible route.

I don't find that it works as expected. Definitely there is a bug with the latest version. In this screenshot you can see that I selected left and right user-defined borders, white, hairline, but look at "spacing to contents." The right border is greyed out. When I click on OK with this setting, the top and bottom 1 pt black borders disappear.


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 10, 2006 1:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Warrick Nelson wrote:
Create a frame the size you need, add the top and bottom borders and background as needed.

Paste text into the frame, then use format paragraph to indent left and right borders the amount needed - Indent before and after text = left and right indents.

Frames have their uses, but I'm asking about paragraph borders.

Here I selected left and right borders, white, 0.05pt, and synchronise spacing to contents.



What I would expect is that only Left and right border spacing are synchronised, but the spacing to contents of all four borders is modified together. A detail, but this could be better.

I can get the results I need, but it is a process of trial and error.

Sad Time to visit the Bugs and Issues forum again I think.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 10, 2006 1:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Select all four borders, then untick the Synchronise box.

Now you can select borders individually and change their settings. I had some trouble getting the options to become available, but clicking on the next border made the previous one's options available. The last I got to by exiting the Format screen and going back into it.

I see that this also changes the amount of grey background space between the border and the text. Neat - I've always done this sort of effect in Frames.

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 10, 2006 5:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here is the step-by-step method:
  • Format paragraph
  • Indents and spacing if you wish
  • Background, grey or whatever
  • Borders set top and bottom borders only
  • Line style, weight, and colour
  • Synchronised, set desired spacing to contents
  • OK
  • Format paragraph again
  • Synchronise off, set desired spacing for left and right borders
  • User-defined borders left and right, colour same as background, same width and style
  • OK

Then, open the style list (F11), create a new style from the selection, and you are ready to apply the new callout style to subsequent paragraphs.


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