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PostPosted: Wed Sep 07, 2005 6:25 pm    Post subject: A stupid question Reply with quote

Hi,

This is my first time posting here, and I hate to ask this , but I'm curious...

I know you can open MS Office files in OpenOffice, but can you open openoffice files in MS Office? I personally don't use MS Office, so I have no idea...

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 07, 2005 7:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No you cannot. Microsoft doesn't include the filters to do so, nor do they include the filters for any of their competitors' file formats. They couldn't keep their monopoly otherwise. LOL
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 07, 2005 7:43 pm    Post subject: Re: A stupid question Reply with quote

JohnTzu wrote:
Hi,

This is my first time posting here, and I hate to ask this , but I'm curious...

I know you can open MS Office files in OpenOffice, but can you open openoffice files in MS Office? I personally don't use MS Office, so I have no idea...


OpenOffice.org 2 introduces support for a new format called OpenDocument. It is an open, vendor-neutral standard designed by the OASIS consortium. Several other products, such as KOffice, have announced support for OpenDocument. The Commonwealth of Mass. is going to adopt it as a state-wide standard.

I hoped that Microsoft would announce support for OpenDocument, but recently a spokesman said they will not implement it. That's too bad.


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PostPosted: Wed Sep 07, 2005 7:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

About the only time Microsoft supports a competing file format is when they plan to butcher it up later on by adding their own special extensions. And guess what, they are planning a very similar XML file format for the next version of Office.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 07, 2005 7:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wow, Microsoft is really stuck in thier own little world aren't they....

OK, so it's not so little, it's reaslly quite huge, fine, but failure to comply with open standards is just plain stupid, and I think it will eventually be thier undoing. (IMHO, I'm not making a psychic prediction or anything Wink

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 07, 2005 8:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What would be nice is a cross platform OpenDoc viewer where you can view and print these files, no editing to keep it light. Then it matters less that MS Office can't open them. Just point people to the viewer.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 07, 2005 8:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

In a way, you can understand their logic (such that it is).

If they support formats for other office programs, that somehow indicates that the other formats are "worth supporting," which is an admission that the other programs are worth looking at by the user, which could lead to the user switching to something other than Microsoft's products, which threatens their customer base. After all, an estimated 90% of the world uses Microsoft Office. Why should they do something to jeopardize that?

I'm not saying that I support it or agree with it, but I do understand it.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 07, 2005 8:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

jmm wrote:
About the only time Microsoft supports a competing file format is when they plan to butcher it up later on by adding their own special extensions. And guess what, they are planning a very similar XML file format for the next version of Office.


That's called Embrace, Extend, Exterminate (or Extinguish).

What's with your avatar? It looks like a Microsoft logo.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 07, 2005 9:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ahz wrote:
What's with your avatar? It looks like a Microsoft logo.


But it's better looking than the OpenOffice logo.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 08, 2005 3:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

jmm wrote:
ahz wrote:
What's with your avatar? It looks like a Microsoft logo.


But it's better looking than the OpenOffice logo.


Microsoft generally wins in the marketing department. It's hard to say "Open Office dot org" twice in a conversation without feeling geeky.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 08, 2005 3:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I dunno, I kinda like the pretty Birdies, they relax me....


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PostPosted: Thu Sep 08, 2005 8:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ahz wrote:
It's hard to say "Open Office dot org" twice in a conversation without feeling geeky.

The ".org" is silent so although it is written OpenOffice.org it is pronounced "Open Office".
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 08, 2005 3:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just who owns the copyright to the OpenOffice name? Sun should go ahead and buy it and save us all this trouble.
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