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Kaaredyret Moderator


Joined: 22 Aug 2003 Posts: 1356 Location: Denmark
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Posted: Mon Sep 26, 2005 2:09 pm Post subject: StarOffice 8 vs OOo 2.0 |
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http://www.osnews.com/story.php?news_id=11999
| Quote: | | Unlike OpenOffice.org, StarOffice can now convert most Office macros, tables, headers, and footers. Macro conversion, it appears, was one of the most requested features by current StarOffice users. The majority of macros can now be converted and are supported. In addition, StarOffice can now open Microsoft Office 2003 password protected files, which until now, has only been supported in Office itself. |
Huh? My impression was that OOo 2 and SO8 would use the same MS Office import filters. It is true that SO8 is better at handling MSO tables, headers and footers? Even macros??? _________________ www.kaaredyret.dk - OpenOffice resources (templates, extensions, tutorials and more) !
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9point9 Moderator

Joined: 31 Aug 2004 Posts: 3875 Location: UK
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Posted: Mon Sep 26, 2005 2:12 pm Post subject: |
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It's just the filters I think. The reason is that being a closed produce they can have closed code for the filters. Code that I think is bought from MS. That doesn't seem like an advantage to me.  _________________ Arch Linux
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DrewJensen Super User


Joined: 06 Jul 2005 Posts: 2616 Location: Cumberland, MD
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Kaaredyret Moderator


Joined: 22 Aug 2003 Posts: 1356 Location: Denmark
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Posted: Mon Sep 26, 2005 2:34 pm Post subject: |
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Quite a few visitors/members here really want and need max compatibility. I really thought that filters were the same. Oh well, I will probably upgrade my StarOffice 7 to 8, to get the "commercial quality" spell checker.  _________________ www.kaaredyret.dk - OpenOffice resources (templates, extensions, tutorials and more) !
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9point9 Moderator

Joined: 31 Aug 2004 Posts: 3875 Location: UK
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Posted: Mon Sep 26, 2005 2:57 pm Post subject: |
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I suppose I should explain my reasoning for it being bad that it has better file filters:
You would be paying money to Sun, who in turn would be paying money to M$ so that you can join the format lock-in. That's not a good thing and why bother when OpenDocument is going to wipe it out? _________________ Arch Linux
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AndrewZ Moderator


Joined: 21 Jun 2004 Posts: 4140 Location: Colorado, USA
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Posted: Mon Sep 26, 2005 3:07 pm Post subject: |
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| 9point9 wrote: | | why bother when OpenDocument is going to wipe it out? |
This will take a while. Most people still don't know what OpenOffice.org and OpenDocument are. |
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DrewJensen Super User


Joined: 06 Jul 2005 Posts: 2616 Location: Cumberland, MD
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Posted: Mon Sep 26, 2005 3:28 pm Post subject: |
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If I can acquire multiple packages from different vendors that can exchange files without loss of content, then how is this a Lockin? _________________ Blog - http://baseanswers.spaces.live.com/ |
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Kaaredyret Moderator


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Posted: Mon Sep 26, 2005 3:32 pm Post subject: |
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If they bought some code from Microsoft, will it work on the Linux and Mac versions of StarOffice? The StarOffice 7 WordPerfect filter was/is Windows only, I think. _________________ www.kaaredyret.dk - OpenOffice resources (templates, extensions, tutorials and more) !
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9point9 Moderator

Joined: 31 Aug 2004 Posts: 3875 Location: UK
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Posted: Mon Sep 26, 2005 3:37 pm Post subject: |
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| DrewJensen wrote: | | If I can acquire multiple packages from different vendors that can exchange files without loss of content, then how is this a Lockin? |
Money is being paid to one company for that: Microsoft. None of Microsofts formats are openly specified so none of them are standards meaning that if you use them you will always be partically locked in. _________________ Arch Linux
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DrewJensen Super User


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Posted: Mon Sep 26, 2005 3:44 pm Post subject: |
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Well, I think the question that Kaaredyret asks get to a possible problem. If the functionality is only on Windows then for sure there is at least a partial lockin.
9point9, I appreciate your opinion and I can even go along with some of it. But for me the big picture is in helping to promote an evironment where the output of these systems can be exchanged with other systems, simply and freely. This way when all is said and done a person or organization can have a real choice.That choice doesn't have to, perhaps even could never, include every possible software application available. But if the choices available are kept broader then, ONE, then that is a good thing. The larger the pool of vialble choices the better.
Just my opinion.
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Ballonskipper General User


Joined: 09 Nov 2004 Posts: 10
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Posted: Tue Sep 27, 2005 2:34 am Post subject: |
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| The average Joe doesnt care about these discussions about open or closed, they want solutions that works. Some may be interested, but I would pay go get around the problems if I exchanged docs with MS using people. |
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