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AndrewZ
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 Posted: Fri Jun 24, 2005 2:15 pm Post subject: Windows 95 and OOo 2 |
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Please vote for this issue if you have an account at www.openoffice.org.
OOo 2 does not work with Windows 95. OOo 1.1.4 did. There are a lot of Windows 95 machines out there (dozens in this office), and the people running them are OOo's market: people who don't want to go out and spend a lot of money on new hardware and software.
http://qa.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=45631 |
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The Liquidator
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I suspect that there are few applications that are released nowadays that will support Win 95 - Win 98SE seems to be the deminimus now. This can only happen more and more.
I suspect that if you are using Win 95 you don't have the latest and greatest hardware either? Might be the right time to try Linux as an experiment on one of the machines, which may be a way of extending their lifespan.
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AndrewZ
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| Quote: | | I suspect that there are few applications that are released nowadays that will support Win 95 - Win 98SE seems to be the deminimus now. This can only happen more and more. |
And that's a great opportunity for OpenOffice.org, and that's why I want people to vote for the issue.
Our office is going to a Linux terminal server system, but not all of our computers may be on it, and clearly there are computers around the world still running Windows 95. In the linked issue, the guy has 100 computers running Windows 95.
Given the programs I want to run, Linux is not suitable for these machines (without the beefy terminal server). Many otherwise-good Linux applications suffer from poor performance. I'm thinking of Gnome (including Nautilus and the terminal), Evolution, Thunderbird, Firefox, and OpenOffice.org. |
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9point9
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| Posted: Sat Jun 25, 2005 2:21 am Post subject: Re: Windows 95 and OOo 2 |
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| aziem wrote: | | OOo 2 does not work with Windows 95. OOo 1.1.4 did. |
Well, 1.1.x didn't exactly. It was never officially supported and although some people have got it working, others haven't. I really don't think that Windows 95 support would happen that easily.
Perhaps more concerning, OOo 2.0 does not run on NT4 whereas OOo 1.1.x did (and was supported).
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darkestblue
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You might want to try ReactOS in the near future, it can run OOo 1.1.x (at least according to the compatability list) but it crashes a lot at the moment, and is version 0.2.6. Even though it's alpha software that crashes a lot i don't know which one would win if you compared it to windows 95.
(ReactOS is basicaly a clone of windows, http://www.reactos.com liscensed under GPL) |
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AndrewZ
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| Posted: Sun Jun 26, 2005 9:36 am Post subject: |
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We have a variety of Windows 95 machines from different sources. 100% of them run OpenOffice.org fine.
| Quote: | | I suspect that there are few applications that are released nowadays that will support Win 95 - Win 98SE seems to be the deminimus now. This can only happen more and more. |
This vacuum is a great opportunity for OpenOffice.org. The latest Firefox runs fine on Windows 95 too. That's a fantastic help because Microsoft stopped supplying updates years ago for MSIE on 95 .
I've looked at WINE and ReactOS. While they may run a few programs OK, they don't run all the necessary programs. In fact, I rewrote some software so we could use it on Linux in a termimal server system. |
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9point9
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| Posted: Sun Jun 26, 2005 10:41 am Post subject: |
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| aziem wrote: | | The latest Firefox runs fine on Windows 95 too. |
Firefox on 95 seems a bit of a grey area. It works for some people but not others and the installer doesn't work so far as I know. Similar to getting OOo 1.1.x working on it.
There may be some eally good technical reason why it's hard to get it working on Windows 95. 98 isn't that much different from a fully patched up 95 so it may be really complicated.
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AndrewZ
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| Posted: Sun Jun 26, 2005 2:54 pm Post subject: |
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On our hodge-podge of Windows 95 computers donated from different sources, FF runs fine with two exceptions:
1. Importing data from MSIE caused a crash.
2. FF required a Winsock update. Easy to do via download from Microsoft.
| Quote: | | There may be some eally good technical reason why it's hard to get it working on Windows 95. 98 isn't that much different from a fully patched up 95 so it may be really complicated. |
Maybe. Maybe not: that's why I hoped more than 2 people would vote for this issue. |
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The Liquidator
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Hi again
What apps do you run that require windows?
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AndrewZ
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In our learning center we run a proprietary learning application, but I rewrote parts of it, and some parts run in emulators.
Our office also runs a FileMaker multiuser application that runs only in Windows. It starts up in WINE, but then it goes nuts. But this is not a Windows 95 issue. Hopefully we will replace the FileMaker application next year. |
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Cybb20
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| Posted: Mon Jun 27, 2005 11:05 am Post subject: |
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aziem: Isn't there support for Windows 95 in one of the 1.1 builds of OpenOffice? The question here is if you really need OOo 2.0 on those old machines or if it doesn't matter which version of OOo.
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9point9
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I don't think this is the highest priority thing for building OOo. I have voted on it as I don't like seeing support being lost but things do move on. Linux distros from 5 years ago won't run OOo 2.0 so Windows users should think themselves lucky that an OS 7 years old can run OOo 2.0.
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