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PostPosted: Fri Nov 04, 2005 5:21 pm    Post subject: using openoffice with EndNote Reply with quote

Hi to all...
I'm a new user of Openoffice. I was using windows words as a word processor and I was suing endnote as a citation manager. now I'm trying to use open office word processor... but I don't know how to incorporate EndNote with it to use it as a 'cite while you write' as I used to use with word for windows..
any one could help me with this ?
thank you for your time and consideration,
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 04, 2005 11:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If I understand your question it is easy to use endnotes.

Insert, Footnote, and select Endnote from the dialog box.

There is also a database solution calld "Bibus" that you might want to consider if you want to use a lot of citations in different books. I haven't used it.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 04, 2005 11:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There is no direct support for EndNote in StarOffice/Openoffice.org Writer. Sad

You have to use the RTF Document Scan feature in EndNote.

To get EndNote support in Writer, you have to contact Thomson and tell them that yet another user need EndNote support in Writer:

http://www.endnote.com/ensuggest.asp
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 05, 2005 8:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kaaredyret wrote:
There is no direct support for EndNote in StarOffice/Openoffice.org Writer. Sad

I'm baffled by this. Although Insert Endnote is not on the Insert menu, one can insert Endnotes by choosing Insert, Footnote.. and then specifying Endnote.

I have just modified the Insert menu replacing the Insert Footnote item as follows:

~Footnote = Insert Footnote directly
~Endnote = Insert Endnote directly
~Note = Insert Note

I can only think that you must be talking about a feature in Microsoft Works, which I have not used very much.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 05, 2005 9:08 am    Post subject: Re: using openoffice with EndNote Reply with quote

afret100 wrote:
Hi to all...
I'm a new user of Openoffice. I was using windows words as a word processor and I was suing endnote as a citation manager. now I'm trying to use open office word processor... but I don't know how to incorporate EndNote with it to use it as a 'cite while you write' as I used to use with word for windows..
any one could help me with this ?
thank you for your time and consideration,
wael


Suing Endnote? Smile

The short answer to your question is that you cannot use Endnote in a true Write and Cite fashion. However (going from memory since I do have Endnote installed), what you can do is switch back and forth from OOo to Endnote and cut and paste the citations (not the references) into the text. The citiations will appear just as if you were using W&C. To finalize the document you need to save the OOo doc as RTF and process it, then reopen the resulting RTF doc in OOo again.

It is a bit clumsy but to be honest I didn't find it all that much clumsier than using Endnote in a W&C mode. I should point out though that I was just test-driving Endnote and had not gotten used to its fashion of working. Bibus is at http://bibus-biblio.sourceforge.net/

As mentioned above there is also Bibus which intergrates well with OOo but is not as sophisticated as Endnote. It may depend on your required style whether or not Bibus would be useful. Bibus is at http://bibus-biblio.sourceforge.net/
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 05, 2005 9:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bhikkhu Pesala wrote:
Kaaredyret wrote:
There is no direct support for EndNote in StarOffice/Openoffice.org Writer. Sad

I'm baffled by this. Although Insert Endnote is not on the Insert menu, one can insert Endnotes by choosing Insert, Footnote.. and then specifying Endnote.

I have just modified the Insert menu replacing the Insert Footnote item as follows:

~Footnote = Insert Footnote directly
~Endnote = Insert Endnote directly
~Note = Insert Note

I can only think that you must be talking about a feature in Microsoft Works, which I have not used very much.


Product name (Endnote) vs function (endnote)
. Endnote is a bibliographic software package. Quite powerful and sophisicated and a boon for academic / scientific authors who a) need to manage and use a large number of references and b) who may want to drastically revise the referencing layouts of a given paper if, for some reason, they decide to publish in, say, a medical journal rather than a psychological journal.

For b) such a change with Endnote , Bibus, Biblioscape etc, is the equivalent of changing a paragraph style in OOo
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 04, 2007 12:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kaaredyret wrote:
There is no direct support for EndNote in StarOffice/Openoffice.org Writer. Sad

You have to use the RTF Document Scan feature in EndNote.

To get EndNote support in Writer, you have to contact Thomson and tell them that yet another user need EndNote support in Writer:

http://www.endnote.com/ensuggest.asp


This is a response I received after requesting Cite-While-You-Write support for OpenOffice from the EndNote people:

We do hear this request often but are not close to implementing it. If we do develop CWYW for other word processors it is likely several years away. This is a very complicated feature and having CWYW for MS Word does not really make it easy to create CWYW for OpenOffice - or any other word processor.

Thanks for writing,


Jason E. Rollins, PhD
Director, Product Development
ResearchSoft
Thomson Scientific
3501 Market St.
Philadelphia, PA USA 19104
t: 215.823.1721
f: 215.387.4706
jason.rollins@thomson.com

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 04, 2007 1:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well it was nice reply Smile And he did take the time to reply. I suppose I see his point.

On the other hand, Bibus while not as sophisticated now will work with both Word and OOo Writer. Smile Getting refs from Endnote to Bibus usually works okay though I think I've heard of some problems.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 19, 2009 2:36 am    Post subject: JabRef version 2.4.2 Reply with quote

I'm using JabRef version 2.4.2 available online, it works just fine for me with Open Office Writer.

http://jabref.sourceforge.net/
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 14, 2009 2:51 am    Post subject: CWYR now supported in Endnote X3 Reply with quote

Apparently CWYR is now supported - I have not tried this as I don't have X3 but see the message below

-----Original Message-----
From: Jason.Rollins@thomsonreuters.com [mailto:Jason.Rollins@thomsonreuters.com]
Sent: 14 August 2009 11:43
To: XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
Subject: RE: Endnote and OOo Writer


Yes. The current version of EndNote for Windows - version X3 - includes a CWYW plug-in for OpenOffice.org Writer.

Jason Rollins, the EndNote team

-----Original Message-----
From: XXXXX [mailto:XXXXXXXXXXXXX]
Sent: Fri 8/14/2009 3:27 AM
To: Rollins, Jason (Scientific USA)
Subject: Endnote and OOo Writer

Dear Jason,



Could you tell me whether Thomson have any plans to add full (CWYR)
support for OOo Writer? I'm sure you know that there is a lot of demand
for this; for me Endnote is the last thing tying me to MS Word as I
prefer Writer in most other aspects.



Thanks,
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 14, 2009 4:58 am    Post subject: Re: CWYR now supported in Endnote X3 Reply with quote

Karlgw wrote:
Apparently CWYR is now supported - I have not tried this as I don't have X3 but see the message below

-----Original Message-----
From: Jason.Rollins@thomsonreuters.com [mailto:Jason.Rollins@thomsonreuters.com]
Sent: 14 August 2009 11:43
To: XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
Subject: RE: Endnote and OOo Writer


Yes. The current version of EndNote for Windows - version X3 - includes a CWYW plug-in for OpenOffice.org Writer.

Jason Rollins, the EndNote team

-----Original Message-----
From: XXXXX [mailto:XXXXXXXXXXXXX]
Sent: Fri 8/14/2009 3:27 AM
To: Rollins, Jason (Scientific USA)
Subject: Endnote and OOo Writer

Dear Jason,



Could you tell me whether Thomson have any plans to add full (CWYR)
support for OOo Writer? I'm sure you know that there is a lot of demand
for this; for me Endnote is the last thing tying me to MS Word as I
prefer Writer in most other aspects.



Thanks,


Good but too late. I've moved to Zotero with Firefox.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 14, 2009 9:15 am    Post subject: Zotero & Firefox Reply with quote

Zotero is fine if you are working alone, or collaborating with other similarly enightened individuals, but I collaborate with many colleagues within my own institution and elsewhere on (Word) documents with embedded Endnote citations - unfortunately Zotero is not compatible. Glad to hear you have found a solution though.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 20, 2009 10:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Latest end note version supports OOo 3.x
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 17, 2011 4:33 am    Post subject: How to get rid of Endnote stuff Reply with quote

I have been working on some documents which include documents converted years ago from Word to OpenOffice. Some of those Word documents included citations using Endnote.

Now suddenly there are bits of Endnote stuff popping up in the OpenOffice document. I can't select and delete them.

Any ideas on how to get rid of it ?
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 18, 2011 9:07 am    Post subject: Re: How to get rid of Endnote stuff Reply with quote

michinyon wrote:
I have been working on some documents which include documents converted years ago from Word to OpenOffice. Some of those Word documents included citations using Endnote.

Now suddenly there are bits of Endnote stuff popping up in the OpenOffice document. I can't select and delete them.

Any ideas on how to get rid of it ?


Not the faintest idea. If one of the problem docs is not confidential you might want to post it as an example so that readers here can have a look at it. Mediafire is a handy place to do this.
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