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PostPosted: Mon Jan 30, 2006 12:23 pm    Post subject: text in formula returns #VALUE! Reply with quote

Hi,

Since my upgrade to OO2 I have the problem that if a text cell is encoutered by my formula (simple addition of formulas) I get an "#VALUE!". Before with OO1.1.4, the text would be neglected. Now when I open the spreadsheets with OO2 I just have "'VALUE!" everywhere...

I understand why it may be questionnable to have text in summations, however it had proven very handy to mark comments WITHIN sparse matrices (ie. almost empty tables). I also understand this is pretty much the problem opposite of this previous post.

I don't find an option to toggle away this "new" behaviour. Any help on how to edit the old files using OO2?

Although I can't believe to be the first to have a problem with this, I do not seem to find an answer to my question. I would appreciate any help or link to a similar problem/solution.

Thanks,
Philippe

PS: [add-on] Actually I notice the problem occurs only using the "+" operator, not when using the "SUM()" function... For example I obtain with C1=A1+B1, C2=A2+B2 and A3=SUM(A1:A2), B3=SUM(B1:B2).
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        A                   B            C
----------------------------------------------------------
1 |    Hello                 4           #VALUE!
2 |    1                     2           3
3 |    1                     6           

Of course I could solve the problem by replacing all my "+"-summations with "IF(ISNUMBER(...))" but this would be quite tediuous (and a pretty ugly fix)!
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 30, 2006 1:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I can not confirm this. C1 gives 4.
Running OOo2.0 on Linux.
What happens when you do a "null edit"? Press F2, append a space and enter.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 30, 2006 1:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Confirming Villeroy, I get 4. OOo2.0.1 under Window 98.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 31, 2006 11:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well... hum...

I have just tried using another user on my linux box (hence clean profile). Not even left overs from my previous OpenOffice <1 . The problem also appears there.

Any idea where I could look for more help?

More precisely this is OpenOffice 2.0.0-5 running on Linux Debian/Testing (etch). I am running the openoffice which comes installed with Debian's package management.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 31, 2006 4:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Confused
I'm totally clueless. May be some extra security aware debian folks provide a compilation with enhanced type-safety? Don't know. Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 31, 2006 4:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

philippeP wrote:

Any idea where I could look for more help?


If someone will assist you to submit the spreadsheet for download, I'll take a look. Or, you can PM me and I'll send you a temporary email address to send it as an attached file.

David.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 01, 2006 1:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

OK so here we go: DIRECTORY.

I have put a PNG screenshot to make sure you don't think I am a fool.

I have put the ODS file in a ZIP archive because... geocities would not allow me to upload ODS files!!?

I have just installed the version 2.0 for windows on the same computer. As you mention, the problem does not occur... And if I open my linux generated ODS file in windows then it opens fine. Same thing the other way around, if I generate the data with the windows OpenOffice and then open it under my linux version then the same problem occurs.

Now I just don't know if it is a problem with the linux version or the debian package. Most likely the latter (?),

Argh?!? Any thoughts? I would really want to avoid installing openoffice myself (without going through Debian's repository)

Thanks for any help.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 01, 2006 2:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

philippeP wrote:
OK so here we go: DIRECTORY.


No-one thinks you are a fool. It may be your operating system, or the version of OO that needs that operating system, in which case it would be a bug. However, if someone else using the same operating system and version 2.0 does not have a similar problem, then it's your system, and not the program. I downloaded the Zip file, and then opened the calc file into Calc. In E7, I saw an expected value of 1, not #VALUE. I'm using Windows home XP, and version 2.0.something. I'll leave conclusions to those more familiar with the operating systems at the programming level.

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 01, 2006 2:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

E7 = 1
OOo2.0 on SuSE 9.1 (Linux 2.6.5)
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 01, 2006 4:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

philippeP wrote:
OK so here we go: DIRECTORY.

I have put the ODS file in a ZIP archive because... geocities would not allow me to upload ODS files!!?

Philippe


Yes. Very annoying I suggest that you send them a message requesting that they add the OOo file types. I did just before Xmas. Enough requests and they should consider allowing them.

We cannot be the only two OOo users who are running into this problem. In the meantime you can use mytempdir.com http://www.mytempdir.com for temporary postings for od? files.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 04, 2006 4:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just for information, I have emailed the debian list (see thread). But still replies seem not to flow as fast as on this forum Confused

Thanks for the "mytempdir" tipp. Didn't know about it. Sounds very useful!

Btw. I tried the "null edit" proposed by Villeroy in the first reply of this thread but without any effect.

So now I guess I'll just wait a little longer for the debian maintainers to react. Thanks for the help, all you people on the thread Smile

Philippe
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 04, 2006 4:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I believe debian packages the ooo-build version of OpenOffice, which include various patches and "improvements" over the official openoffice.org releases. Sometimes there are bugs or behaviors in ooo-build which don't appear in the upstream build, this looks like an example of that. Filing a bug report in debian's system is the way to go; if you submit a bug report into IssueZilla at openoffice.org, you'll just get told to reproduce it first with an official release.

I know you've already said that you don't want to install the generic official build, but there's a decent chance it would actually fix your problem. Good luck in any case,

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 09, 2006 1:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh well... That's it my patience has reached its limit.

After not getting any reaction to my question on the debian mailing-list, I have downloaded 2.0.1 for linux [using mldonkey Cool] and, as you said (and as I thought also), the problem is therewith solved. No idea what the problem was, though (package problem or local problem on my computer).

Thank you all on the oooforum.org thread for help and active participation. Wink
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