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PostPosted: Fri Dec 27, 2002 11:47 pm    Post subject: LaTeX or OpenOffice.org Math Reply with quote

I've been hearing a lot about LaTeX as an alternative to OpenOffice.org Math for writing and editing formulas. Can anyone comment on the benefits of LaTeX over OOo Math? Upon first glance, it looks to me like Math will do everything I need it to do.

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PostPosted: Sat Dec 28, 2002 6:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

using Linux? I think if the openoffice.org will do what you need it to do then use it. As far as I know Latex is harder to use.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 28, 2002 7:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

No. I primarily use WinXP. I actually don't even know if LaTeX is available for Windows. I looked into downloading it from the project homepage but got lost on their ftp server.

I'll give OOMath a try. If using LaTeX is as non-intuitive as downloading it, I imagine it will be too difficult for me to use. Confused

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 25, 2003 9:59 pm    Post subject: RE: LaTeX or OpenOffice.org Math Reply with quote

You can download a very nice TeX distro for win32 from www.miktex.org.

Another option is looking at ConTeXt which is available at www.pragma-ade.com, seems to look very promising.

It is up to you if you are happy with the math in open-office. IMO LaTeX will give the best quality, it is hard to use, but it is worth using.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 03, 2003 12:52 pm    Post subject: Re: RE: LaTeX or OpenOffice.org Math Reply with quote

Luap777 wrote:
You can download a very nice TeX distro for win32 from www.miktex.org.

Another option is looking at ConTeXt which is available at www.pragma-ade.com, seems to look very promising.

It is up to you if you are happy with the math in open-office. IMO LaTeX will give the best quality, it is hard to use, but it is worth using.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 10, 2003 11:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Among LaTeX, MathType, and OOoMath, LaTeX is the best. Even MathType is better than OOoMath. OOoMath doesn't do formatting well, e.g. subscripts and superscripts are way too far apart from the main character, and try having subscripts and superscripts together. All those nice formulae you see in math textbooks are probably done in LaTeX. The scientific community swear by it. OOo still has a long way to go to replace LaTeX as a DTP engine.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 11, 2003 12:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

LaTex is not so difficult if you have to write formulas. It's like if you have to input a fomula
in a scientific program.
so for example you have to write something like $x^2$ to get x squared or
$x \over y$ if you want x divided by y [check my sintax! Smile ]
you can use a lot of editors to semplify your work:
under win you can use TexnicCenter or WinEdt
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 19, 2003 11:57 am    Post subject: Re: LaTeX or OpenOffice.org Math Reply with quote

Hi,

In my opinion Latex has a larger range of mathematical symbols/constructs available by default (especially if you use the ams package); but the Ooomath will equally suit most "house-garden-and-kitchen" formulas.... (does this expression exist in English ? Smile )

For LaTeX:
If you use Windows, you can use something like winedt or texniccenter;

Under Linux/Unix you can use something like vim, emacs (with auctex), or if you prefer more wysiwym editing look at the terrific "lyx" program.

Bye,
Stefaan.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 07, 2003 1:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

momoni wrote:
No. I primarily use WinXP. I actually don't even know if LaTeX is available for Windows. I looked into downloading it from the project homepage but got lost on their ftp server.


Yes, there is a (quite good, IMHO) LaTeX distribution for Windows. It's called MiKTeX, and it's available from www.miktex.org

You can also download a fine IDE for LaTeX, called TeXnic Center, you can download it from www.toolscenter.org/products/texniccenter

Actually, I'm a big fan of LaTeX (I guess you've noticed it...), wheter I'm on Window$ or on Linux, and I found that I can use OOo's Math almost interchangeably with LaTeX. I have little trouble mentally shifting from one to the other.

BTW, I've downloaded OOo 1.1, and IT ROCKS! I'm never using M$ Office again, the Impress now can insert videos and audio, I've now only to figure out how to get Netscape Plugger to playback them correctly though...

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I'll give OOMath a try. If using LaTeX is as non-intuitive as downloading it, I imagine it will be too difficult for me to use. Confused


I'll have to respectfully disagree there... OOo is pretty powerful stuff, and I'm very much amazed at the quality of work of the developers with this project, I can't wait to see what will come out of OOo's Glow, the announced replacement for M$ Exchange. But LaTeX still has its niche and it's very stable and much portable.

The way I see it, OOo and LaTeX, in terms of text and math edition, are like two ladies. One is older than the other, and has lost some charm over time, but still remains endearing... Hmmm... never mind my poetic slime.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 07, 2003 6:14 am    Post subject: How about Integration? Reply with quote

If you use latex can you paste formulas inside a DOC or Writer document as easily as with Math?
Just curious.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 07, 2003 4:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

LaTeX isn't a window s like program for writing documents, you write something like a program and "compile" it into dvi, ps or pdf
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 07, 2003 7:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Anonymous wrote:
LaTeX isn't a window s like program for writing documents, you write something like a program and "compile" it into dvi, ps or pdf


It's a big disadvantage when you want a bit of formulas and a lot of text, isn't it?
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 28, 2003 8:02 am    Post subject: Equation editors Reply with quote

Dear Avatar,

I have written 2500 equations by Corel WordPerfect 8, 200 Equations MsWord + MathType and 100 Equations by LaTeX.

Some scientific journals ask LaTeX. OpenOffice.org and WP 8 use a similar syntax, but OOo cannot produce acceptable outlook. The subscripts and superscript are usually to far from the quantity. There are also other problems in OOo math. It is pity, since someone did a great work by preparing OOo math, but no-one is interested in finalising the work.

If you do not have huge number of equations, LaTeX is not for you. The positioning of figures and everything needs constant attention. After using LaTeX few hours you are very tired. I propose to use MsWord + MathType.

If the was a group to repair OOo math, I could join it.

Besr Regards,

Kari Santaoja
Helsinki, Finland
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 10, 2003 7:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i habe been using latex for many years now and i did not find any equivalent application to it! it is sure worth trying to write articles or reports in latex. as mentioned above, it is rather difficult to get started, especially when you're not familiar with programming.

advantages are
- layout
- typesetting
- format

the layout looks by default good and is kind of standardised.
typesetting is just like you find it in books and ligatures are supported (ff, ft, fi, ... look different as ligatures)
citation, bibliography and picture or table reference always fit, since they are treated "database-like" and are part of the "latex program", which is the text yoou are writing to be compiled later as dvi, pdf or ps.

disadvantages are
- editing
- wysiwyg
- not standard

it takes some time to get used to editing a text in latex, because the source text looks quite different than the compiled pdf file since it is no wysiwyg application!
there are hardly employers who want their employees to write papers, articles or whatever though in latex! ms-office is some sort of standard and one will expect you to get on with that ms applications.

if you are into openoffice and it works for you, there is hardly a reason to switch to latex. latex is - as far as i know - only used by students and stuff at universities...
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 30, 2003 7:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Please have a try of LyX if you want LaTex and WYSIWYG. Check www.lyx.org. BTW, I have use LyX for my dissertation and a number of papers. It works very well.
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