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Strange behaviour of "-" sign in OO 2.0.1 possible

 
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 07, 2006 4:19 am    Post subject: Strange behaviour of "-" sign in OO 2.0.1 possible Reply with quote

Hello and sorry if this was already addressed, but I couldn't find anything about it in the forums.

Problem:

When entering negative numbers into cells in Calc the "down arrow" button suddenly stops doing it's designed function (leave cell, move one down) and starts trying to add a reference to a field below like when entering a formula. Try yourself - enter any negative number, press "down" and instead of leaving the field it will start adding reference to another field.

I know that it's not really a show stopper as I can use the enter key and it will always do the job, but I got extremely used to leaving cells by "down" key and I'm having a really bad time making that mistake every second time even if I remember. Wink

As far as I can see it - it's a bug, but before I report it I would like others to share the view, maybe it's by design (although I doubt it - the "=" sign should trigger formula building alone).

Thanks in advance

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 07, 2006 5:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm not seeing this behavior. (OOo2.0.1 Win2K)
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 07, 2006 5:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

JohnV wrote:
I'm not seeing this behavior. (OOo2.0.1 Win2K)


Oops, forgot to add that the system is Debian Sarge Linux.
Locale is set to EN_IE (English Ireland).
I've tried "EN_US" but the behaviour was the same.

This is interesting that 2.0.1 behaves different under Windows.

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 07, 2006 10:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Can not confirm this odd behavior with Suse 9.1 and OOo2.0 . Did the debian packagers include a patch?.

http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=20496
There:-- Additional comments from mmeeks Wed Jul 20 00:39:20 -0800 2005 ---

Are you in formula-mode when you type a leading "+"?
Does input -1+2 return 1?
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 07, 2006 11:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Villeroy wrote:
Can not confirm this odd behavior with Suse 9.1 and OOo2.0 . Did the debian packagers include a patch?.

http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=20496
There:-- Additional comments from mmeeks Wed Jul 20 00:39:20 -0800 2005 ---

Are you in formula-mode when you type a leading "+"?
Does input -1+2 return 1?


I confirmed that on Gentoo with OO 2.0.1.2 too.
Yes, "-1+2" returns "1" and when you come back to the cell it contains "=-1+2"

It seems somebody already included that change you've quoted in the link in 2.0.1
It's a pity they didn't leave it as an option to choose for the user, I can understand some reasoning behind that change, but I don't see why it should affect everybody permanently. I am sure I'm not the only one surprised and finding it difficult to accomodate to it.

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 07, 2006 11:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Twisted Evil
You Gentoo/Debian users are elected people, sharing a feature so often requested by the community of Excel-users swithcing to Calc, finding Calc in an almost unusable state because it lacks formula-input ala Lotus 1-2-3.
http://www.oooforum.org/forum/viewtopic.phtml?t=26506
Together with some honorable members of this forum I spent some hours developing a macro to overcome this lack of functionality.
http://www.oooforum.org/forum/viewtopic.phtml?t=31846
http://www.oooforum.org/forum/viewtopic.phtml?t=32036

Twisted Evil
Please stop complaining about the wisdom of your packagers
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 07, 2006 12:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Villeroy wrote:


Twisted Evil
Please stop complaining about the wisdom of your packagers
Twisted Evil


Errmm... ok, I just pointed out that it would be nice if it was an option, judging from the discussions mentioned in fora quoted I am not the only one. Wink

Thank you for your time and sorry if I annoyed anyone, I guess I will start getting used to avoiding using "down arrow".

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 31, 2006 6:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is there a bypass for this behavior ? I am running 2.02 and don't see one.

I really don't like having the +/- start a formula automatically.


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