Regenerating Cross references... but different

[soccerman58]

Hi

Well, yes I would like to know how or when visited links reset themselves back to blue.

But that's not the first question. I created some hyperlinks to subheads before I capitalized them properly. I have now capitalized all the subheads, but I just reopened the doc and all the cross refs are still lower case. Can I force this to regenerate the crossrefs please? (Maybe this is part of the answer to Part 1 also??)

Thanks
Phil

[jeanweber]

If you use actual cross references instead of hyperlinks, they will update automatically when you make changes. If they don't, then you need to go into Tools > Options and set fields to update automatically.
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[soccerman58]

Hi

I've been using the Drag and Drop from the Navigator. Obviously not the best method.
Are you saying that I should use the Bookmark method instead? Or is there yet another method?

Thanks
Phil

[soccerman58]

Hi

I went all through the options but the closest thing I can find to forcing links to update automatically is on the General page where it says Update Links when Loading. I clicked the Always radio button.

Is that the method you were referring to?

Thanks
Phil

[jeanweber]

[jeanweber]

[soccerman58]

Hi

I think I have a fundamental misunderstanding of the difference between a Hyperlink and a cross reference, which to my mind are one and the same.

However, If I try the drag and drop method from the Navigator it works all right as a means of being able to jump from one page to another heading. Downside as far as I can tell is that if you change the heading you dragged in, the changes do not get reflected at the point of the hyperlink. So when would you want to use the Navigator drag and drop...only when you are sure there will be no changes to the heading?

So I am trying another method and that is to bookmark every heading and then insert a link to the bookmark using INSERT => Crossreference. In the References tab I choose bookmark and Reference from the list under Formats.
The problem with this seems to be that when I create the bookmark itself, there are certain things that the bookmark won't accept like a colon or a colon after a period. It just eliminates them when I paste the text into the Bookmark field. Presumably, if I want to crossref to this bookmark, the hyperlink will not show the missing punctuation marks. These are pretty scientific headings and I just can't have that.

I see the Set Reference option in the same References tab as the bookmarks, but I don't see where to actually set the Reference. In the Insert menu I see how to create a bookmark, but not how to create a "reference" If your Reference method works like bookmarks but without the inconvenience of losing the heading punctuation, I'll try it if you can just bring me up to speed as I am halfway there.

It also seems that this Insert => Cross ref method is going to be how I can set it up to insert the page number as part of the crossref. I can get it to output

145How to do Something Here

But I would like the format to be (see, as shown on, refer to, etc which I can add manually I suppose; no biggie) How to do Something Here Heading on Page 145

I appreciate the patience. I'm sure once I get it down I'll be fine.

Thanks
Phil

[soccerman58]

Well I thought I had it part down.

I bookmark the heading and go to Insert=>Crossreference, pick the bookmarked heading from the list and choose reference from the list of formats and click Insert and lo and behold, nothing happens. No crossreference. I can make it insert the page the bookmark is on, but no text.

<gentle steaming...>

Phil

[jeanweber]

[soccerman58]

Hi

No, you got me. I inserted the cursor at the beginning of the header, typed the header into the bookmark, and inserted it that way. I understand now that I have to swipe the header text and put the bookmark in the middle of it, correct?

Doing it this way, will it update the crossref if I delete or retype the Heading entry please?

Now that I have this right, can you please explain how I can add a page reference after the Hyperlink? I would dearly like (refer to, see, go to) Heading Header Head on Page 34.
I don't really care if all of it is hyperlink blue or just the actual cross reference part is blue.

This might not have been the way it was drawn up. but can I use this same method for creating a bibliography? I would like it so that I could create a biblio with two columns, entry and description. I would like it if clicking the hyperlink in the text would jump it down to the table entry. I suspect I will need to make the subject in the text the bookmark and create the link in the biblio table. Although I would not be surprised if that would not enable the jump, because it seems to me to be uncomfortably backwards.

Appreciate the help very much
Phil

[jeanweber]

[soccerman58]

Hi

I think my troubles stem from the placement of the bookmark, because someone said don't place them at the beginning of the text to bookmark.

This is what I am doing to try to create hyperlinks:

I go to the heading that I want to bookmark, swipe the text, copy it, and add it to the Insert Bookmark dialog box.

What I think I should do (and this is the same as Frame I think) is put the cursor somewhere in the heading text in the middle, and physically type the heading text into the Insert Bookmark Dialog.

Then I think if I go to the place where I want the hyperlink and use the Insert Reference, Bookmarks=> Reference option I should get a working cross ref.

Doing it the other way, with the swiping, I get the crossreference text, and I get the finger icon, but it won't jump anywhere. I get a popup dialog with something like #_45325

Thanks
Phil

[jeanweber]

Typing it in won't make any difference. What the x-ref will point to is the text you have highlighted ("swiped") when you create the bookmark, not the name of the bookmark. You con't need to copy it, either. In fact, the name of the bookmark can be anything, as long as it *has no spaces in it*. Since headings typically have >1 word, they typically have spaces, so you can't have the heading text as the name of the bookmark anyway.

I have no idea why you're getting a popup dialog instead of the jump to the bookmark that you would expect.

If you send me a sample of what you have done, maybe I can figure out what's going on.
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[soccerman58]

Hi
Thanks for the help. It seems to be working

Phil