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PostPosted: Mon Oct 08, 2007 1:15 pm    Post subject: Changing the beginning or end of selected area Reply with quote

Is there some way in openoffice writer to correct the position of the beginning or end of a selection, short of repeating the whole click-and-drag-mouse thing to select the block again? It is easy in every other editor I've ever used (from Wordstar on) but I've just spent an hour pouring through the ooffice documentation and googling without finding how to do it in ooffice.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 08, 2007 1:23 pm    Post subject: Re: Changing the beginning or end of selected area Reply with quote

trefoil wrote:
Is there some way in openoffice writer to correct the position of the beginning or end of a selection, short of repeating the whole click-and-drag-mouse thing to select the block again? It is easy in every other editor I've ever used (from Wordstar on) but I've just spent an hour pouring through the ooffice documentation and googling without finding how to do it in ooffice.

Shift+arrow key doesn't work?
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 08, 2007 1:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That just moves one character at a time. I want to be able to move the end of a multi-page selection by several pages in a reasonable time. In Wordstar it used to be exactly two keystrokes at the point where one wanted the new end to be; in emacs it is one keystroke.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 08, 2007 1:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

On my WinXP machine with OOo 2.2, if you click at the beginning of the block of text, then get to the end of the block by cursor down, page down, click in scroll bar down, to the end of the block you want to select - hold down the shift key and click at the end, the whole block is selected.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 08, 2007 1:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

trefoil wrote:
That just moves one character at a time. I want to be able to move the end of a multi-page selection by several pages in a reasonable time. In Wordstar it used to be exactly two keystrokes at the point where one wanted the new end to be; in emacs it is one keystroke.

I have no idea what your references to WordStar or emacs mean, but did you know you can hold the Shift key down and press the Page Up/Page Down keys to go a page at a time, or the Arrow Up/Arrow Down keys to go a line at a time? You can also use the Home and End if those help. Or you can hold Shift and use the scroll mouse or scroll bar, and click where you want the end. I've never used any application that does things any differently than that.

What method did WordStar use? How can it use just one or two keystrokes if it doesn't know where in the file you need to end the selection?
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 08, 2007 2:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, in Wordpad it is much easier. In Open Office you can extend a selection very easily with Shift + Left-click, but you cannot reduce the selection in the same way, which you can do in Wordpad.

In Open Office, using just the keyboard is easier, as people have suggested by holding shift, and using page up, etc. With the mouse, you can only scroll up one line at a time or drag left and right. If you hold shift while doing this, you won't lose the beginning of your selection, but you cannot just click at the new end as you can in Wordpad.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 08, 2007 3:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks Analog Man -- that sounds closer to what I want.

How it can be just one or two keystrokes: older editors allowed you to set begin of block or end of block at a point in the file with a single (or double) keystroke. You can set one. Then move around in the file, set the other, then change your mind about either one by setting a new begin-block or end-block. Much more convenient than all that mopusing around.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 08, 2007 3:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I remember WordStar very fondly. I first used it on a CP/M machine way back when my computer had 2 90k floppies for storage - no hard drives around back then. The entire program fit on one floppy and the other floppy was used for data.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 09, 2007 8:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bhikkhu Pesala wrote:
With the mouse, you can only scroll up one line at a time or drag left and right. If you hold shift while doing this, you won't lose the beginning of your selection, but you cannot just click at the new end as you can in Wordpad.

I can scroll more than one line at a time, with either the scroll wheel or the window scrollbar. I can also click on a new end if it extends the selection, but to reduce the selection I have to click at the end and drag backward. (This is possible even if you've let go the mouse and shift key; just hold Shift again before clicking and dragging.)

trefoil wrote:
How it can be just one or two keystrokes: older editors allowed you to set begin of block or end of block at a point in the file with a single (or double) keystroke. You can set one. Then move around in the file, set the other, then change your mind about either one by setting a new begin-block or end-block. Much more convenient than all that mopusing around.

Ah, I see. Thanks! It's still more than one or two keystrokes if you need to change either end, isn't it? But even so, it does seem more efficient than paging or arrowing. I guess it all depends on what you're used to. I have no problem just automatically making and changing selections. For small selections I usually use the keyboard and for large ones, the mouse scroll.
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