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PostPosted: Wed Jun 17, 2009 12:50 pm    Post subject: Why Do Docs Always Open Read-Only? Reply with quote

Whenever I open docs since upgrading to v3, they always come up read-only, and it forces me to save with another name. This is a real nuisance. It's not a permissions issue, as the docs are set to me username, read-write.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 17, 2009 1:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Can you give more details? Operating system for instance? This doesn't happen to me.
I've seen a lot of questions about docs opening read-only, and it's nearly always because people open them directly from an e-mail attachment, which is stored in a temporary file. So, are you saving your files in a regular folder?
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 17, 2009 2:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I too use version 3 and have never had an issue... We use some network file sharing that can create issues but that is not OOo related.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 17, 2009 11:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You use the version that comes with Ubuntu? It's different from the one directly from Sun.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 18, 2009 6:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

OS is Debian Testing, and OO installed with the package system. Ya, docs opened from email are read-only, but I understand that.

But I have numerous odt's in my home directory which were created with v2, that always, always open read-only. Permissions are fine. v2 docs always open read-only in v3.

I can't redact one and post it for you, as then it will be editable. And the info is confidential.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 18, 2009 6:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

So it might be the Debian version. And I understand that OOo 3.1 has some problems with odt files made with earlier versions of OOo.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 19, 2009 5:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Could be. Should apply to Ubongo then too.

I've just renamed a good v3 file and tried to open the new name with v3, and it came up read-only! I hit the Edit button and it came up as Unnamed, so it forced me to save it to itself so I could work.

It's as if OO has to have some kind of internal record of a file, or else it comes up read-only.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 19, 2009 5:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Maybe you should reset your OOo profile. The new forum (see my sig) has a tutorial about that, if I remember correctly.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 19, 2009 7:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Floris_v is correct about resetting the profile. That action corrects a lot of issues with 3.1. See this tutorial http://user.services.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=74&t=12426
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 19, 2009 9:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Friday, June 19, 2009

Sounds like for whatever reason the lock files created when a file is saved are not being deleted after file closure.

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 19, 2009 9:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks ppls. I have some major lawsuit filings I absolutely must get done today, so I'd better wait to fiddle.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 20, 2009 6:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

No dice. I renamed /home/bill/.openoffice.org/3/user to user.old and reopened an odt, but read-only.

This read-only thing is not only a nuisance, but it is dangerous as I must edit then save the file to its original name. If I ever make a mistake and click the wrong thing to save as... I've completely lost that whole file forever. Very hazardous and disturbing.

I don't know what to do.

If the lockfiles are those hidden files that come up when I edit, they do go away when I close a file. However when I reboot it seems that OO does not close cleanly as I always have to 'recover' the files when I go to edit.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 20, 2009 6:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You say this is a version of Debian for testing; surely you don't put your precious stuff on that? OOo releases developer snapshots for testing but warns not to use them for work. Shouldn't you just use a stable version?
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 20, 2009 8:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's weird how Debian does it. They are very conservative about versions.

Debian Stable is very stable, but most apps are at least a year old.

Debian Unstable is the bleeding edge, and is in fact the version that Ubuntu takes their snapshot from to do their releases, believe it or not.

Debian's Testing is in between. I've found it to have the stability of Stable, and apps almost as new as Unstable.

And Debian's Experimental is beyond Unstable.

My version of OO is 3.0.1-9. Is that considered unstable?
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 20, 2009 12:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm not a Linux man, maybe you should try in the new forum (see my sig) and refer to this thread so you won't have to repeat all the details. A lot of the expert users have gone there and hardly come here any more. Sorry I can't help you any better.
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